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			<title>122.252.226.40 at 12:57, 11 October 2007</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;* are we still trying to work with the [[ProjectScreening]] process? If &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot;, how do these roles correspond with that processs? How does each role correspond with each [[Stage/gate process]]? --[[User:SamRose|SamRose]] 13:07, 17 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;* are we still trying to work with the [[ProjectScreening]] process? If &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot;, how do these roles correspond with that processs? How does each role correspond with each [[Stage/gate process]]? --[[User:SamRose|SamRose]] 13:07, 17 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;* Hey Frederic, maybe you didn't see this question here? Perhaps we should set up a time sometime over the next couple of weeks to discuss this via phone? --[[User:SamRose|SamRose]] 07:18, 18 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;* Hey Frederic, maybe you didn't see this question here? Perhaps we should set up a time sometime over the next couple of weeks to discuss this via phone? --[[User:SamRose|SamRose]] 07:18, 18 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:57:27 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>122.252.226.40</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.p2pventure.org/index.php/Talk:FundCamp_Platform_Prototyping</comments>		</item>
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			<title>FredericBaud: Talk:SeedCamp Platform Prototyping moved to Talk:FundCamp Platform Prototyping: Renaming following the launch on FundCamp</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:11:55 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>FredericBaud</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.p2pventure.org/index.php/Talk:FundCamp_Platform_Prototyping</comments>		</item>
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			<title>SamRose: Sam creates link to new page PurposeProcessPlatform</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;OK, all this is very high level and please anyone interested in more practical questions, do not hesitate to jump-in. -- [[User:FredericBaud|FredericBaud]] 06:01, 19 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;OK, all this is very high level and please anyone interested in more practical questions, do not hesitate to jump-in. -- [[User:FredericBaud|FredericBaud]] 06:01, 19 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:38:36 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>SamRose</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.p2pventure.org/index.php/Talk:FundCamp_Platform_Prototyping</comments>		</item>
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			<title>FredericBaud: more comments</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;* are we still trying to work with the [[ProjectScreening]] process? If &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot;, how do these roles correspond with that processs? How does each role correspond with each [[Stage/gate process]]? --[[User:SamRose|SamRose]] 13:07, 17 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Hey Frederic, maybe you didn't see this question here? Perhaps we should set up a time sometime over the next couple of weeks to discuss this via phone? --[[User:SamRose|SamRose]] 07:18, 18 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that YCombinator, Seedcamp and FundCamp belong to what we called Seed Accelerators that change in an interesting way the dynamics the [[ProjectScreening]] process by compressing the 4 first stages (idea, Founding team, prototype, stakeholders) in a contracted camp/post camp fixed period. I believe the subsequent stages stay the same but that accelerating the 4 first stages could be of value for &amp;quot;certain&amp;quot; type of projects. -- [[User:FredericBaud|FredericBaud]] 08:47, 18 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That helps. So, during the actual face to face camp/conference, you'll be going through idea, Founding team, prototype, stakeholders [[Stage/gate process]] as a group, is that right? Would you say that the collaboration platform was envisioned by you as being part of this face-to-face camp process? Is there voting at each &amp;quot;gate&amp;quot;, or some other decision-making threshold to cross? --[[User:SamRose|SamRose]] 13:11, 18 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You're right that idea gate is probably prior to the selection. In fact, a seedcamp is organizing 3 gates of its own.&lt;br /&gt;
# gate 1: selection of project to participate to the camp&lt;br /&gt;
# gate 2: selection of projects after the week to get funded (projects then get incorporated)&lt;br /&gt;
# gate 3: selection of projects after a couple of month of development to get a first round&lt;br /&gt;
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If we relate that to the [[ProjectScreening]] process&lt;br /&gt;
# gate 1: we crossed the idea gate&lt;br /&gt;
# gate 3: we crossed the Founding team, prototype and stakeholders gate to get a proper project for standard VC's investment.&lt;br /&gt;
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So a seed camp is kind of compressing and reorganizing everything between crossing the idea gate and reaching the stakeholder gate. gate 2 is an important filter, but it does not entirely map to the standard [[ProjectScreening]] process. I believe that the rearrangement of the seed period is what can lead potentially to a more effective process.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that the collaboration platform is then important prior to the camp, and for all the projects that do not cross the selection gates so that they can continue improving.&lt;br /&gt;
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-- [[User:FredericBaud|FredericBaud]] 15:27, 18 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To complement slightly the comments above, I'd say that I think the platform could serve as a virtual incubator during the offline (meaning off from the physical camp) periods; either because it's happening before the camp, or because the project has not been selected for this round.&lt;br /&gt;
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One other thing I would like to complement is that crossing a gate is validated by someone external to the project, either a jury that validates an application letting the project cross the idea gate, or because money is invested in the project making it cross the stakeholder gate.&lt;br /&gt;
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People familiar with workflow applications will surely recognize the pattern of tracking a project through different stages and implementing collaboration to make a project go from one stage to the next,...or being terminated because its prospects of success seem to low for keeping working on it.&lt;br /&gt;
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OK, all this is very high level and please anyone interested in more practical questions, do not hesitate to jump-in. -- [[User:FredericBaud|FredericBaud]] 06:01, 19 September 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:01:54 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>FredericBaud</dc:creator>			<comments>http://www.p2pventure.org/index.php/Talk:FundCamp_Platform_Prototyping</comments>		</item>
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